[♪♪♪] >> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO "CHICAGO TONIGHT."

I'M PARSZ PAIRS.

>> I'M BRANDIS FRIEDMAN.

ON THE SHOW TONIGHT... >> IF WE CAN BE THEIR NEIGHBORS IN SOME WAY AND SERVE THEM IN SOME WAY THEN THAT IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

>> HOW THE BURR RIDGE COMMUNITY IS RESPONDING TO THE DOZENS OF MIGRANTS BUSSED IN FROM TEXAS.

WE WILL HAVE A LIVE REPORT.

>> IT'S HAD A DOMINO EFFECT ON ILLINOISANS WHO NEED ACCESS TO SEXUAL AND REPRODUCTIVE HEALTHCARE.

>> WITH NEAR AND TOTAL ABORTION BANS IN THE MIDWEST WHAT THAT MEANS FOR CHICAGO ILLINOIS.

>> A JURY FINDS R. KELLY GUILTY.

WHAT IMPACT IT COULD HAVE ON SURVIVORS.

>> MANY ALDERPEOPLE HEADING FOR THE EXIT AND SOME ARE WONDERING WHETHER IT'S TIME TO DOWNSIZE CITY COUNCIL.

>> ARTISTIC VIEWS OF ELEMENTS OF THE GREEK LANDSCAPE WE TALK WITH A PHOTOGRAPHER, A GREEK PRINCE VISITING CHICAGO.

>> I ACTUALLY HAVE ALMOST NO MEMORY OF WHAT I WAS THINKING WHEN I DID THEM.

>> AND 95-YEAR-OLD LEO SEGEDIN WALKS US THROUGH HIS SERIES OF SELF PORTRAITS GOING BACK 75 YEARS.

>> AND BRANDIS AND PARIS, I'M IN BURR RIDGE AS PART OF OUR "CHICAGO TONIGHT" "IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD SERIES".

NOW, IT IS A SOUTHWEST SUBURB OF CHICAGO.

AND ONE OF THE STATE'S WEALTHIEST TOWNS NOW HOSTING A DOZEN OF MOSTLY VENEZUELAN MIGRANTS AT A NEARBY HOTEL.

WE'LL TELL YOU ABOUT THEIR EFFORTS AND MORE ABOUT THE VILLAGE OF BURR RIDGE COMING UP.

>> ALL RIGHT WE LOOK FORWARD TO THAT.

>> A CHICAGO POLICE SERGEANT AND OFFICER ARE FACING FELONY CHARGES FOR AN OFF DUTY SHOOTING ON JULY 22.

A C.P.D.

NEWS RELEASE SAYS THE TWO STOPPED A GROUP OF FOUR PEOPLE.

WHEN THEY IDENTIFIED THEMSELVES AS POLICE ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS BROUGHT OUT A GUN AND THERE WAS A QUOTE EXCHANGE OF GUNFIRE.

TWO MEN WERE SHOT.

THE OFFICERS WERE NOT HIT.

COOK COUNTY STATE'S ATTORNEY KIM FOXX IS SET TO GIVE DETAILS ON THE OFFICERS' ARREST IN A PRESS CONFERENCE TOMORROW MORNING.

>> AVOID A BLOW TO THE ECONOMY.

THE AGREEMENT MEANS METRA IS RESCINDING THE PLAN TO CANCELING TRAINS, ROUTES WILL RUN AS NORMAL.

ACT TRACK IS -- AMTRAK IS WORKING TO RESTORE CANCELED TRIPS.

CHECK THE WEBSITE FOR UPDATES.

IT ALLOWS UNIONIZED ENGINEERS AND WORKERS TO TAKE OFF FOR MEDICAL CARE WITHOUT DISCIPLINES.

MAJOR STICKING POINT WERE POLICIES CRUSHING TO THEM.

>> A COVID MANDATE IS EASING.

FRIDAY UNVACCINATED SCHOOL AND CHILDCARE EMPLOYEES WILL NO LONGER HAVE TO TAKE COVID TESTS.

GOVERNOR J.B. PRITZKER AND THE STATE PUBLIC HEALTH DIRECTOR SAYS PANDEMIC CONDITIONS CHANGED AND THERE ARE MORE TOOLS AVAILABLE TO PROTECT FROM COVID.

THE LEADERS OF BOTH TEACHERS' UNIONS ISSUED STATEMENTS BACKING THE CHANGE.

>> AND UP NEXT A SOUTHWEST SUBURB IS HOSTING DOZENS OF IMMIGRANTS BUSSED IN FROM TEXAS.

WE'RE LIVE IN BURR RIDGE FOR AN UPDATE.

SO PLEASE STAY WITH US.

>> Announcer: "CHICAGO TONIGHT" IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY... >> A SOUTHWEST SUBURB IS BECOMING THE TEMPORARY HOST OF DOZENS OF MIGRANTS.

THE MIGRANTS WERE BUSSED FROM TEXAS TO CHICAGO AND TO A HOTEL IN BURR RIDGE FOR TEMPORARY HOUSING.

PRODUCER ACACIA HERNANDEZ AND JOANNA HERNANDEZ SPENT TIME IN THE SUBURB AS PART OF THIS WEEK'S "IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD SERIES" AND AND JOANNA JOINS US NOW WITH MORE.

CAN YOU TELL US HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE STAYING AT THE HOTEL THERE.

>> PLAN DISAS OF NOW WE KNOW 64 INDIVIDUALS ARE STAYING IN THE HOTEL AND MOST ARE FAMILIES.

THEY WERE BUSSED BY THE STATE TO THE HOTEL LAST WEEK.

THE MAYOR GARY GRASSO CRITICIZED CHICAGO AND ILLINOIS OFFICIALS FOR NOT INFORMING THE VILLAGE AHEAD OF TIME BUT HIS OFFICE IS WORKING WITH BUSINESSES AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO ASSIST THE FAMILIES STAYING AT THE HOTEL.

THE ILLINOIS DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN SERVICES SAYS SINCE LATE AUGUST THEY HAVE BEEN SCRAMBLING TO FIND HOUSING FOR 500MY GRANTS.

>> MOW OWE MIGRANTS.

>> FINDING A BLOCK OF ROOMS FOR 100 PEOPLE USUALLY TAKES OVER A YEAR AND AS THE GOVERNOR SAID, SOMETIMES WE HAVE THREE HOURS, SOMETIMES WE HAVE 12 HOURS.

SO IN ADDITION TO JUST PLAIN AVAILABILITY, WE WANT TO ASSURE THAT THOSE REGIONS ALSO HAVE THE ACCESS TO SUPPORT SERVICES.

AND WE'VE ALSO RETURNED TO HOTELS THAT HAVE PREVIOUSLY WEREN'T WELCOME OWED OWL COMED AFGHANS EARLIER THIS YEAR.

>> AND BURR RIDGE IS ONE OF THE COMMUNITIES WHO HOUSED SEVERAL AFGHAN REFUGEES.

AND WE WILL BE SPEAKING WITH MAYOR GARY GRASSO.

WE ALSO WANT SPENT TIME LEARNING MORE ABOUT THE VILLAGE OF BURR RIDGE WHICH WAS ONCE NAMED HARVESTER.

THE VILLAGE HAS A POPULATION OF 11,000 PEOPLE AND DESCRIBED AS A SMALL RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.

IT IS A MAJORITY WHITE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THE 14% ASIAN-AMERICAN POPULATION AND 4% LATINO.

WE SPOKE WITH THE LOCAL RESIDENT WHO SAYS THE AREA HAS RAPIDLY CHANGED OVER THE YEARS.

>> WHEN I GREW UP THERE, THERE WERE A LOT MORE CORNFIELDS, COW PASTURES, HORSE FARMS.

WHEN THE POPULATION GREW RAPIDLY IN THE 90s, THE RETAIL -- THERE'S RETAIL BUSINESSES ESTABLISHED.

WHEN I WAS A KID YOU COULD NOT BUY A PACK OF GUM IN BURR RIDGE.

IT WAS A VERY RURAL SETTING.

>> BOB IRMEN IS A VOLUNTEER AT A PANTRY OPERATED BY FAMILY SERVICES.

THE ORGANIZATION HAS BEEN AROUND FOR DECADES OFFERING AID.

THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TELLS US THE ORGANIZATION OPENED A SECOND PANTRY OUT OF A SCHOOL IN 2018.

THE FOOD BANK BORDERS BURR RIDGE AND WILLOWBROOK AND SERVING FAMILIES IN THE BURR RIDGE COMMUNITY.

SINCE THE PANDEMIC THEY WENT FROM HELPING 50 FAMILIES TO MORE THAN 100 FAMILIES WEEKLY.

>> HUNGER IS NOT DEFINED BY WEALTH BECAUSE UNEXPECTED LIFE HAPPENS TO EVERYONE.

WE HAD A WOMAN TWO WEEKS AGO GOT DIVORCED MOVED INTO AN APARTMENT DID NOT HAVE A PIECE OF FOOD IN HER CUPBOARD.

SO THANKFUL FOR THE SERVICES THAT WE CAN PROVIDE HERE.

>> THE HDF PANTRY IS PARTNERED WITH CHURCHES LIKE THE BURR RIDGE COMMUNITY CHURCH.

THE CON DEGREE GATION HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE 1967.

THE CHURCH HAS SERVED AS A STAPLE OF THE TIGHT ANYTHING COMMUNITY AND THEY HAD TO GET CREATIVE DURING THE HEIGHT OF THE PANDEMIC.

CREATING THE SPACE FOR PEOPLE TO GO ON-LINE AND SHARE THEIR THOUGHTS, SHARE THEIR FEELINGS.

AND THAT KIND OF KEPT THE MOMENTUM GOING FOR OUR ORGANIZATION.

>> PASTURE ALICIA REESE SAYS THE -- PASTOR ALICIA REESE SAYS THE CHURCH OFFERS GRIEF DOWN LING, AA MEETING AND A WOMEN'S GROUP.

EVERYONE IS WELCOME.

SHE STARTED AT THE CONGREGATION DURING THE PANDEMIC AND SHARES THERE'S ONE EMOTION PEOPLE CONTINUE TO BATTLE WITH.

>> LONELINESS HAS BECOME ALMOST A SECOND PANDEMIC THAT PEOPLE ARE LONELY.

THEY ARE LOOKING FOR COMMUNITY.

THEY ARE LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO BE HONEST ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT THEY ARE EXPERIENCING.

WHETHER IT BE GRIEF, PAIN, THE LOSS OF A LOVED ONE AND MORE WE WANT TO BE A PLACE THAT SAYS WELCOME YOU'RE WELCOME HERE TO COME AS YOU ARE, WITH WHAT YOU HAVE.

AND THAT HAS BEEN A HUGE NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY.

>> AND THE PASTOR SAYS THEY WILL BE COMING TOGETHER TO SEE HOW THEY CAN HELP THESE FAMILIES AS THEY SEEK NEW OPPORTUNITIES.

AND COMING UP WE SPEAK WITH THE LOCAL MAYOR.

>> IT WILL BE GOOD TO HEAR FROM THE MAYOR LATER ON.

>> THANK YOU.

>> NOW, TO PARIS WITH MORE ON ABORTION ACCESS IN ILLINOIS.

PARIS?

>> BRANDIS AN INDIANA LAW BANNING ABORTION AT ALL STAGES OF PREGNANCY WITH LIMITED EXCEPTIONS IS NOW IN EFFECT.

83 DAYS AFTER THE U.S. SUPREME COURT OVERTURNED ROE VS. WADE AND MAKES ILLINOIS AN ISLAND OF ABORTION ACCESS FOR PEOPLE IN THE MIDWEST AND THE SOUTH.

HEATHER CHERONE JOINING US WITH A LOOK AT THE NEAR TOTAL BAN IN INDIANA MEANS FOR ACCESS IN CHICAGO AND ACROSS ILLINOIS.

YOU SPOKE WITH REPRESENTATIVES OF GROUPS ACROSS THE STATE THAT HELP PEOPLE GET ACCESS TO ABORTION AND OTHER REPRODUCTIVE HEALTHCARE INCLUDING ALICIA FROM THE ABORTION FUND.

>> WE KNOW THAT WITH THIS INDIANA BAN COMING DOWN THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE MANY MORE HOOSIERS COMING TO ILLINOIS.

WE BELIEVE THESE ARBITRARY STATE LINES SHOULD NOT DETERMINE SOMEONE'S ACCESS TO ABORTION CARE EVEN THOUGH THAT IS OUR CONSERVATIVE JUSTICES ON THE SUPREME COURT AND ANTIABORTION LAWMAKERS ARE WANTING A REALITY TO BE.

>> HOW ARE GROUPS LIKE THE CHICAGO ABORTION FUND PREPARING FOR THIS?

>> WELL, THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT MORE THEY CAN DO.

BECAUSE EVERY GROUP I SPOKE WITH HAS BEEN AT CAPACITY SINCE THE DOBBS DECISION CAME DOWN FROM THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT.

THESE ADDITIONAL PEOPLE WHO WILL BE SEEKING REPRODUCTIVE HEALTHCARE IN ILLINOIS WILL ONLY ADD TO THE STRETCHED CAPACITY THAT THESE GROUPS ARE REALLY STRUGGLING TO DEAL WITH.

AND WHETHER THEY WILL BE ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THAT DEMAND IS A VERY OPEN QUESTION.

>> AND ONE OF THE GROUPS NOT ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THE DEMAND IS THE MIDWEST ACCESS COALITION.

THEY MADE THE DECISION TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IT HELPS PAY FOR TRANSPORTATION AND LODGING IN ILLINOIS SEEKING AN ABORTION.

LET'S LISTEN TO WHAT THAT GROUP TOLD YOU.

>> THIS WEEK WE REALLY CAME TOGETHER AS AN ORGANIZATION AND TRIED TO PUT CAPS ON THE AMOUNT OF CLIENTS THAT WE WERE SEEING.

JUST BECAUSE WHAT WE WERE DOING IS REALLY AT AN UNSUSTAINABLE RATE.

>> A LOT OF CRYING WAS INVOLVED BUT THIS WAS A DECISION THAT WAS A LONGTIME COMING.

>> WHY HAS THE SUPREME COURT'S DECISION MADE THIS MORE DIFFICULT ON STATES IN ILLINOIS WHERE THE LAWS HAVE NOT CHANGED?

>> ABORTION ACCESS EXISTS IN AN ECOSYSTEM.

IF YOU LIMIT THE ABILITY OF PEOPLE TO GET THIS CARE IN STATES LIKE INDIANA, AND MISSOURI AND KENTUCKY, YOU'RE GOING TO INCREASE THE DEMAND IN ILLINOIS.

AND AS I HEARD OVER AND OVER AGAIN JUST BECAUSE THESE PROCEDURES ARE BANNED IN THOSE STATES IT HAS DONE NOTHING TO LESSEN THE DEMAND FROM THOSE PEOPLE WHO NEED OR WANT THEM.

AND THAT HAS LED TO A SITUATION WHERE PEOPLE IN ILLINOIS WHERE WE'VE ALL HEARD THE REASSURANCES FROM ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT NOTHING CHANGED WITH THE DOBBS DECISION, IT MEANS THAT PEOPLE IN ILLINOIS ARE WAITING SIGNIFICANTLY LONGER AND ARE HAVING A HARDER TIME FINDING CARE.

>> ALL RIGHT.

RIGHT ON THE BORDER OF ILLINOIS YOU SPOKE WITH SOMEONE FROM PLANNED PARENTHOOD IN THE ST. LOUIS REGION AND SHE TOLD YOU THEY WERE TRYING TO PLAN NOR THIS WORST CASE SCENARIO BUT STILL THEY DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS GOING TO BE THIS BAD.

LET'S TAKE A LOOK.

>> WHEN INDIANA FALLS WE WILL SEE AN INFLUX OF PATIENTS NEEDING TO FLEE THEIR STATE FOR ABORTION CARE.

ILLINOIS IS AN ISLAND IN A REGION SURROUNDED BY STATES WITH HIGHLY RESTRICTIVE OR BAN -- OR HAVE BANNED ABORTION.

>> THE ST. LOUIS REGION INCLUDES THE METRO EAST PART OF ILLINOIS.

HOW IS DOWN STATE OR SOUTHERN ILLINOIS DEALT WITH THIS?

AND IS IT DIFFERENT THAT UP HERE IN CHICAGO?

>> IT IS DIFFERENT.

IT'S REALLY THE EPICENTER OF THE CRISIS.

BECAUSE THERE ARE MORE CLINICS IN CHICAGO THAN THERE ARE ANYWHERE ELSE IN SOUTHERN ILLINOIS WHICH IS HAVING TO BEAR THE BURDEN OF PEOPLE COMING FROM TEXAS, ARKANSAS, ALL OVER THE SOUTH.

NOT TO MENTION MISSOURI.

AND IN THAT ST. LOUIS REGION FACILITY OPERATED BY PLANNED PARENTHOOD WAIT TIMES HAVE INCREASED ALMOST THREE WEEKS UP FROM THREE DAYS BEFORE THE DOBBS DECISION.

AND THERE'S BEEN 114% INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF ABORTIONS PERFORMED PAST 14 WEEKS.

ONCE YOU GET TO THAT POINT IN A PREGNANCY AN ABORTION IS MORE COMPLICATED AND MORE COSTLY PROVIDING MORE HURDLES FOR PEOPLE SEEKING THIS CARE.

>> WE'RE OUT OF TIME BUT GOVERNOR J.B. PRITZKER CALLED FOR A SPECIAL SESSION TO DEAL WITH THIS, TO PUT MORE RESOURCES.

WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT?

>> WELL, THESE ARE VERY DIFFICULT QUESTIONS AND IT WASN'T CLEAR WHAT THE ILLINOIS LEGISLATURE COULD DO THAT WOULD WITHSTAND A COURT CHALLENGE AND GET THROUGH A SPECIAL SESSION WITH SPECIAL RULES.

AND IT IS A VERY COMPLICATED ISSUE AND PERHAPS IN THE VETO SESSION IN NOVEMBER AFTER THE GENERAL ELECTION WE'LL SEE SOME ACTION ON ABORTION THEN.

>> COMPLICATED ISSUE NO EASY ANSWERS HERE OBVIOUSLY.

HEATHER THANKS VERY MUCH.

>> THANKS PARIS.

>> AND YOU CAN READ HEATHER'S STORY AND 0 OUR WEBSITE WTTW.COM/NEWS.

>> AND NOW TO BRANDIS FOR REACTION TO THE VERDICT IN THE CHICAGO TRIAL OF R. KELLY.

BRANDIS.

>> PARIS, THANK YOU.

SURVIVORS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT MY SAY IT'S BEEN A LONG ROAD AS A FEDERAL JURY YESTERDAY CONVICTED R. KELLY OF SIX COUNTS OF PRODUCING CHILD PORNOGRAPHY AND ENTICING GIRLS FOR SEX.

THE SINGER FACED CHARGES 14 YEARS AGO BUT WAS ACQUITTED EVEN THOUGH THE SAME VIDEO OF HIM SEXUALLY ASSAULTING A 14-YEAR-OLD GIRL WAS CRITICAL TO BOTH TRIALS.

HERE TO TALK ABOUT THIS AND THE IMPACT THE VERDICT COULD HAVE ARE MALLORY LITTLEJOHN, LEGAL DIRECTOR AT THE CHICAGO ALLIANCE AGAINST SEXUAL EXPLOITATION.

JIM DeROGATIS THE FIRST TO REPORT ON THE ABUSE IN 2000.

HE RECEIVED THAT VIDEO AT THE CENTER OF THE TRIAL.

AND SCHEHERAZADE TILLET COFOUNDER AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF A LONG WALK HOME, AN ORGANIZATION THAT AIMS TO EMPOWER YOUNG PEOPLE TO END VIOLENCE AGAINST GIRLS AND YOUNG WOMEN AND WAS A CONSULTANT ON THE DOCUMENTARY SURVIVING R. KELLY.

KELLY WAS FOUND GUILTY ON THREE COUNTS OF CHILD PORNOGRAPHY AND THREE COUNTS OF ENTICING A MINOR IN SEXUAL ACTIVITY.

JIM DeROGATIS YOU'VE COVERED THIS FOR QUITE SOMETIME AS WE SAID WHAT IS YOUR REACTION TO THIS VERDICT?

>> IT WAS ANGER.

I THINK THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PUT ON A VERY SLOPPY CASE.

THEY DID NOT DO THEIR HOMEWORK.

THEY DID NOT READ 22 YEARS OF MY REPORTING IN "THE SUN TIMES" OR BuzzFeed OR THE NEW YORKER OR MY BOOK.

THE LOOSENEDS IN THIS CASE, THE ENABLERS BEING ACQUITTED I DON'T YOU HAD HOW.

UNDERSTAND HOW.

THE TRAVESTY OF JUSTICE IN 2008, THE ACQUITTAL ON THIS VICTIM, NOW HE'S CONVICTED ON THIS VICTIM AND SEVERAL OF HER UNDERAGE FRIENDS FOR THE ENCOUNTERS HE TAPED ON THREE VIDEOS.

IF HE IS GUILTY OF THAT, HOW WAS THERE NOT A CONSPIRACY TO RIG THE TRIAL IN 2008?

THERE DAMN WELL WAS IT IS A BLACK MARK ON CHICAGO HISTORY LIKE THE BLACK SOX SCANDAL AND AL CAPONE AND THE REASON IT MATTERS IS MY TWO FELLOW GUESTS TONIGHT BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY WAS DEVASTATED BY THIS PREDATOR FOR 30 YEARS.

AND CHICAGO MUST ANSWER TO THAT.

>> AND LET'S GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.

SCHEHERAZADE TILLET WHAT DOES THE VERDICT MEAN FOR THE WOMEN WHO HAVE BEEN ABUSED BY R. KELLY.

>> YEAH, I MEAN I THINK THE VERDICT IS BITTERSWEET LIKE JIM SAID.

ONE IT'S BEEN A LONG, LONG TIME COMING.

I CALL THIS CASE ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT CASES WE HAVE AND THE FACT IT'S TAKEN THIS LONG FOR SOME TYPE OF JUSTICE SAYS A LOT ABOUT HOW WE THINK IN OUR SOCIETY ABOUT BLACK GIRLS AND VICTIMS.

AND THIS RECKONING THAT HAS HAPPENED HAVING THIS CASE, PARTICULARLY THE FEDERAL CASE HAPPENING IN CHICAGO WHERE THE TRAUMA HAS HAPPENED WHERE SO MUCH OF THE BYSTANDERS AND THE CONSPIRACIES HAVE HAPPENED AND WHERE THE TAPE ORIGINAL TAPE HAS PRODUCED, I THINK THAT IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT WHAT THIS CASE PRODUCED.

BECAUSE IT ALLOWED SOME TYPE OF JUSTICE FOR THE BRAVERY OF THOSE SURVIVORS THAT CAME FORWARD.

AND ALLOWING MAYBE A HEALING TO HAPPEN TO THE CITY OF CHICAGO.

>> MALLORY LITTLEJOHN, SAME QUESTION TO YOU.

SIX OUT OF 13 COUNTS HERE AND HAVING HEARD BOTH SIDES ARE CLAIMING SOME LEVEL OF VICTORY HERE.

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR SURVIVORS OF SEXUAL ABUSE.

>> .

>> SCHEHERAZADE TILLET I ECHO THAT IT IS BITTERSWEET.

BLACK WOMEN AND GIRLS ARE SO OFTEN DISBELIEVED.

WE ARE THE LAST TO BE LISTENED TO.

WE DO NOT OFTEN GET ACCOUNTABILITY.

AND YOU SEE BOTH OF THOSE THINGS UNFOLDING HERE.

YOU SEE WOMEN FINALLY BEING LISTENED TO AND FINALLY BEING BELIEVED BUT YOU SEE A LACK OF ACCOUNTABILITY IN TIMES OF THE COUNTS WHERE THEY WERE NOT GUILTY OR THE DEFENDANTS NOT GUILTY.

SADLY, I AM NOT SURPRISED BY THAT AND I THINK NOBODY ON THIS CALL IS ALSO SURPRISED BY THAT.

>> JIM YOU WROTE THAT KELLY'S NEW YORK TRIAL LEFT OPEN THE QUESTION HOW HE AVOIDED CONVICTION IN 2008 AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WITH HIS TWO CO-DEFENDANTS BEING ACQUITTED, YOU PROBABLY DON'T FEEL LIKE THIS CASE ANSWERED THAT QUESTION.

AND I THINK YOU HOPED IT WOULD?

>> YEAH, I REALLY DID.

I MEAN THE FEDS IN CHICAGO WENT AFTER TWO DUBIOUS CHARACTERS WHO KELLY HIRED TO GET OTHER TAPES OFF THE STREET.

BUT HOW DID THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM FAIL?

KELLY'S ATTORNEY WHO IS NOW DECEASED ED JENSEN SAID ON HIS DEATH BED HE WAS GUILTY AS HELL.

AND DERREL McDAVID KEPT BRINGING UP I JUST DOING WHAT EDDIE JENSEN TOLD ME TO DO.

AND JACK PALADIN KNOW, THE PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR ALL THREE OF THE MEN ARE DEAD.

JENSEN SAID WE KNEW KELLY WAS GILL ANY IN 2008.

THE JUDGE HAS NEVER BEEN HELD TO ACCOUNT FOR STOIK YEARS OF -- SIX YEARS OF PRETRIAL HEARINGS WHICH HE CONSISTENTLY RULED FOR THE DEFENSE.

AND ALL OF THOSE RECORDS ARE SEALED.

GOLDER AND BARRY WHITE WERE NAMED IN LAWSUITS AND WHEN BARRY, RESIGNED AS KELLY'S FIRST MANAGER TURNING THE REINS OVER TO DERREL McDAVID HE RESIGNED KELLY NEEDS HELP.

THE FEDS DID NOT SHOW McDAVID THAT LETTER OF RESIGNATION FROM 2000 UNTIL THEIR CLOSING ARGUMENT AND THE JUDGE WOULDN'T ALLOW IT INTO EVIDENCE.

THE NUMBER OF SUBPOENAS THAT WERE NOT ISSUED AND TESTIMONY THAT WAS NOT HEARD AND LOOSE ENDS NOT FOLLOWED, IS EXTRAORDINARY AND CHICAGO DESERVED BETTER FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

BECAUSE THEY ARRESTED HIM IN JULY 2019 AND HAD THREE YEARS TO PREPARE THEIR CASE.

IN CONTRAST, THE BROOKLYN CASE WAS EN PSYCH PEEDIC AND AMAZINGLY THOROUGH.

IT'S DISAPPOINTING.

BUT LET'S REMEMBER NOBODY IN HISTORY IN POPULAR MUSIC HAS EVER BEEN CONVICTED OF MORE THAN KELLY.

HE FACES 10 TO 90 YEARS.

HE'S ALREADY SENTENCED TO 30 YEARS IN BROOKLYN.

EVEN IF HE ONLY GETS 10 THAT IS LIFE IN PRISON FOR THIS MAN.

>> SCHEHERAZADE TILLET YOU WERE A CONSULTANT ON SURVIVING R. KELLY AND THE ATTORNEY SAID THAT SERIES WITH THE PROSECUTION HERE AND NEW YORK THAT WE'RE SEEING TODAY.

HOW IMPORTANT WAS THAT SERIES?

AND A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE SAID THAT NO ONE WANTED TO BELIEVE BLACK WOMEN WHEN SHE IS ALLEGATIONS FIRST SURFACED IN THE 90s.

DO YOU THINK THEY HEARD BLACK WOMEN THIS TIME?

>> YEAH.

I WANT TO SAY THAT WORKING ON THAT R. KELLY SURVIVING R. KELLY WAS VERY CHALLENGING EXPERIENCE.

I WAS IN CHARGE OF HELPING FIND COUNSELING FOR SOME OF THE SURVIVORS AND DID INTERVENTION AT PEOPLE'S HOMES FOR SOME OF THE VICTIMS.

FIRSTHAND GOT TO HEAR THE HORROR OF THE STORIES THAT JIM IS TALKING ABOUT THAT HE GOT TO HEAR FROM THE TESTIMONIES AS WELL AS IN THE BOOK.

BUT I WANT TO TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT WHAT THE CASE IN 2008 THE CENTERED AROUND THIS YOUNG GIRL WHO WAS 14 AT THE TIME; "JANE", R. KELLY'S GODDAUGHTER.

AND HOW SHE WASN'T ABLE TO REALLY TESTIFY THAT FIRST TIME AND WHAT HAS SHIFTED IN THE CULTURE FOR HER AT 37 TO BE ABLE TO TESTIFY AT THIS TIME.

THE BRAVERY OF HER AND THE HORROR SHE DESCRIBED AND HER TESTIMONY OF UNACCOUNTABLE TIMES AS A MINOR, AS A MINOR, BEING RAPED IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO USE THAT WORD WHEN WE TALK ABOUT MINORS BECAUSE IT IS THE LEGAL DEFINITION OF SEXUAL ASSAULT.

HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF TIMES, RIGHT?

AND HOW NOT ONLY THAT OCCURRED BUT HOW THIS TAPE AS WE KNOW HOW OFTEN VIDEOTAPES HAVE BEEN USED NOW, AS EVIDENCE, TO REALLY SHOW SOME TYPE OF JUSTICE AND EVIDENCE THAT IT EXISTS.

BUT SHE DIDN'T GET TO BE A MINOR AS A CHILD AND THAT WAS TAPED A NAIL SALON AND PEOPLE WATCHED THAT AND SHE WAS RIDICULED TO ME THAT ONLY JUSTICE THAT CAME FROM THIS MOMENT IS SEEING AND HEARING HER BE ABLE TO BE BELIEVED THIS TIME AROUND.

AND I REALLY WANT TO FOCUS HOW WE CHANGE THE CULTURE FOR ALL OF THE SURVIVORS.

>> CERTAINLY TRAUMATIC STORY.

MALLORY LITTLEJOHN, ONE LAST TIME IN 30 SECONDS WE HEARD HIS ATTORNEY BRING UP KELLY'S TRAUMATIC CHILDHOOD AND HIS OWN LACK OF TREATMENT OVER THAT.

WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THAT?

AND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED AT HIS SENTENCING?

>> WELL, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT MANY PEOPLE WHO GROW UP TO BECOME ABUSERS HAVE BEEN ABUSED.

IT IS A CYCLE OF ABUSE THAT TAKES PLACE.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO HOLD SPACE FOR THAT.

FOR THE PEOPLE WHO COME IN THE FUTURE LIKE THE SURVIVORS IN THIS CASE, TO BE HEARD, TO BE BELIEVED AND TO BE LISTENED TO.

AND TO GET SUPPORT THAT THEY NEED.

IS IT GOING TO BE BROUGHT UP IN THE SENTENCING?

I THINK THE GUIDELINES WILL REQUIRE THAT IT IS BROUGHT UP.

WHAT WEIGHT IT SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT HOLD.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE LEFT TO THE JUDGE.

BUT AS SOMEBODY WHO WORKS WITH SURVIVORS, I KNOW THAT SEXUAL VIOLENCE AND SEXUAL HARM DOES NOT DISCRIME NATION NATURE ON RACE, GENDER AND AGE.

ANYONE CAN BE A PERPETRATOR AND A SURVIVOR OF THIS TYPE OF HARM.

>> HURT PEOPLE HURT PEOPLE.

WE'LL HAVE TO LEAVE IT THERE.

THANKS TO JIM DeROGATIS, MALLORY LITTLEJOHN AND SCHEHERAZADE TILLET.

THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> AND THERE'S MORE "CHICAGO TONIGHT" JUST AHEAD.

STAY WITH US.

>> AND THERE'S MUCH MORE AHEAD ON THE PROGRAM INCLUDING CALLS FOR CHICAGO'S CITY COUNCIL TO BE DOWNSIZED.

ONE OF THE LAST MUSEUMS TO OPEN FOLLOWING THE SHUTDOWN IS THE HELLENIC MUSEUM IN GREEKTOWN AND THE FIRST SHOW HAS A ROYAL PEDIGREE.

A PHOTOGRAPHER AND ARTISTED WHO IS ALSO A GREEK PRINCE.

HE VISITED CHICAGO FOR THE FIRST TIME AND MARC VITALI MET HIM TO TALK ABOUT HIS ARTWORK AND ABOUT HIS FAMILY TIES TO THE BRITISH MONARCHY.

>> THE SOUNDS OF NATURE ON A GREEK SUMMER NIGHT ACCOMPANY A LARGE SCALE PHOTOGRAPH OF TWO OLIVE TREES.

>> I WANT PEOPLE TO COME IN AND GET FULLY IMMERSED AND CONTEMPLATE.

AND FORGET ABOUT EVERYTHING BOTHERING THEM IN THEIR LIVES AND COME IN INSIDE.

>> AT CHICAGO'S HELLENIC MUSEUM AN EXHIBITION CALLED RESILIENCE CONSIDERS THE NATURAL WORLD THROUGH A SERIES OF VIVID ABSTRACTIONS.

IT WAS THE PANDEMIC PRODUCTION OF PRINCE NIKOLAOS SON OF THE LAST KING AND QUEEN OF GREECE.

>> THE MAJORITY OF THE WORK WAS CREATED DURING THAT FIRST LOCKDOWN IN THE PANDEMIC.

AND SO RESILIENCE WAS BORN OUT OF THAT BECAUSE THE GREEK PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE AGES HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY RESILIENCE TO OCCUPATION, TO WARS, FAMINES AND FINANCIAL CRISIS AND LATELY, THE PANDEMIC.

BUT THE PANDEMIC AFFECTED THE ENTIRE WORLD.

I'M LOOKING AT IT THROUGH ANY COUNTRYMEN'S EYES BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE I LIVE.

>> THE ALMOST PSYCHEDELIC EFFECT OF THE PHOTOGRAPHS INCLUDING THIS VIEW OF THE ACROPOLIS IS DUE TO THE PRINCE'S UNUSUAL PROCESS.

>> I HAD ALREADY PHOTOGRAPHED CERTAIN IMAGES.

AND I THEN PRINTED THOSE ON ALUMINUM.

AND THEN I IMMERSED THOSE IN A BODY OF WATER.

AND I TOOK A PHOTOGRAPH FROM OUTSIDE OF THE WATER TO GET THE EFFECT.

AND THE EFFECT IS THE REFRACTION OF THE COLORS FROM THE BOTTOM TO THE SURFACE OF THE WATER.

THE EXHIBITION IS BASED ON A QUOTE BY A FAMOUS GREEK POET CALL.

HE SAID IF YOU DECONSTRUCT GREECE YOU WILL BE LEFT WITH A VINE, AN OLIVE TREE AND A BOAT.

WITH THESE THREE THINGS YOU CAN RECONSTRUCT GREECE.

I TOOK THAT QUOTE AND LOOSELY ALIGNED MY EXHIBIT TOWARDS THAT.

THERE IS A WATER ELEMENT, THERE IS A GRAPE AND WINE ELEMENT.

THERE IS AN OLIVE OIL AND OLIVE TREE ELEMENT.

>> ONE IMAGE IS A PHOTOGRAPH HE TOOK OF THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA IT IS A MOSAIC POSTED ON PLASTIC.

THE PRINCE'S WIFE OFFERED ADVICE WHEN HIS EARLY EFFORTS PROVED FRUSTRATING.

>> SHE SAID DON'T CAPTURE WHAT YOUR EYE SEES.

TRY AND CAPTURE WHAT YOUR SOUL IS FEELING WHEN YOU SEE THAT WITH YOUR EYES AND THAT CHANGED EVERYTHING.

>> PRINCE NIKOLAOS IS THE GOD SON AND COUSIN OF THE NEW KING CHARLES III OF ENGLAND.

WE OFFERED OUR CONDOLENCES ON THE KET OF HIS -- DEATH OF THIS AUNT, QUEEN ELIZABETH.

>> SHE HAS BEEN A TREMENDOUS PERSON IN THE HISTORY OF THE COUNTRY.

AND THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD BECAUSE SHE WITNESSED AND BEEN PART OF SO MANY HISTORICAL EVENTS.

SHE WILL BE SORELY MISSED.

I BELIEVE SHE WOULD WANT PEOPLE TO LOOK TO THE FUTURE AND IN THAT FUTURE, YOU WILL HAVE KING CHARLES III RIGHT NOW WHO I THINK WILL DO A TREMENDOUS JOB.

HE IS A SENSITIVE INDIVIDUAL.

AND ANOTHER PERSON WHO IS ALSO SELFLESSLY GIVEN HIMSELF TO THE DUTY OF COUNTRY.

AND I THINK HE WILL DO A MARVELOUS JOB.

>> WE TURNED OUR ATTENTION BACK TO THE PRINCE'S ARTWORK AT HIS FIRST NORTH AMERICAN EXHIBITION.

HE DOES NOT ENHANCE THE COLOR ON HIS PHOTOGRAPHS.

>> EVERYTHING YOU SEE IS WHAT I SAW.

EVERYTHING YOU SEE IS WHAT MY CAMERA SAW.

YOU CAN RECREATE SOME OF THE COLORS BUT THE BEAUTY IS NATURE CAN PROVIDE THEM IF YOU ARE IN THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE RIGHT TIME, SHE WILL DELIVER.

NATURE IS THE ARTIST I'M JUST THE MESSENGER.

>> FOR "CHICAGO TONIGHT" THIS IS MARC VITALI.

>> AND THE NATIONAL HELLENIC MUSEUM REOPENS TOMORROW.

YOU CAN SEE MORE OF PRINCE NIKOLAOS' PHOTOGRAPHY ON OUR WEBSITE WHERE WE WILL SHARE FULL COMMENTS ON QUEEN ELIZABETH AND KING CHARLES III.

NOW TO BRANDIS.

>> THANK YOU.

STILL TO COME ON "CHICAGO TONIGHT", ONE-ON-ONE WITH THE MAYOR OF BURR RIDGE WHERE DOZENS OF MIGRANTS ARE CURRENTLY BEING HOUSED AFTER ARRIVING IN CHICAGO FROM TEXAS.

AS MORE ALDERPEOPLE STEP DOWN FROM CHICAGO COUNCIL WE DISCUSS THE BENEFITS AND DRAWBACKS OF HAVING A SMALLER CITY COUNCIL.

AND AN EVANSTON BASED ARTIST LOOKS BACK AT HIS LIFE'S GREATEST WORK: PORTRAITS OF HIMSELF.

>> FIRST, SOME OF TODAY'S TOP STORIES..., REVEREND JESSE JACKSON HAS BEEN DISCHARGED FROM SHIRLEY RYAN ABILITYLAB.

JACKSON HAD BEEN UNDERGOING PHYSICAL, OCCUPATIONAL AND SPEECH THERAPY AND GETTING REST.

HIS DOCTOR IS QUOTED AS SAYING THE INTERVENTIONS FOCUSED ON TREATING SYMPTOMS RELATED TO PARKINSON'S DISEASE.

RAINBOW/PUSH SAYS JACKSON WILL NOW GET BACK TO WORK.

>> LOW INCOME CHICAGO RESIDENTS ARE ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE FREE SECURITY DEVICES AND CHICAGO POLICE HOPE THEY WILL BE REGISTERED WITH THE C.P.D.

APPLICANTS MUST HAVE AN INCOME OF 300% OF THE POVERTY LEVEL.

THE PACKAGE INCLUDES TWO WIRELESS OUTDOOR CAMERAS AND A SOLAR POWERED FLOOD LIGHT.

SINCE THE PROGRAM BEGAN IN JUNE IT'S RECEIVED 38 HUNDRED REQUESTS FOR REIMBURSEMENT.

REGISTERING THE CAMERAS WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS OPTIONAL.

[♪♪♪] >> MUSIC FANS ARE GETTING A SUMMER FESTIVAL BEFORE THE SEASON WRAPS UP.

THE CHICAGO HOUSE MUSIC FESTIVAL KICKED OFF TONIGHT WITH A SYMPOSIUM AT THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO WHICH WILL EXPLORE THE HISTORY, CULTURE AND BUSINESS OF MUSIC THAT ORIGINATED HERE.

AND SOME BANDS WILL PLAY AT VARIOUS LOCATIONS IT INCLUDES A HOUSE CLUB TOUR AND WRAPS UP WITH A DANCE PARTY IN MILLENNIUM PARK SUNDAY AFTERNOON.

>> AND NOW TO JOANNA HERNANDEZ WHO SPENT THE DAY IN SUBURBAN BURR RIDGE AS PART OF OUR "IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD SERIES".

JOE HANNAH?

>> THANKS.

WE ARE HERE WITH THE MAYOR OF BURR RIDGE GARY GRASSO.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TONIGHT.

NOW, I WANT TO START OFF THERE'S 60 MIGRANTS STAYING AT A NEARBY HOTEL.

CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT THE RESOURCES THAT YOUR OFFICE IS PROVIDING THEM?

>> WELL, THERE ARE 64 OF THEM AND THEY ARE ALL FAMILIES.

NO UNACCOMPANIED MINORS WHICH WE NOW LEARNED WE DIDN'T KNOW IN THE BEGINNING.

WE'RE PROVIDING THEM EVERYDAY AMENITIES.

WE HAVE POLICE PROTECTION HERE, OF COURSE.

THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE IN THE VILLAGE THAT HAVE STEPPED UP WANTING TO GIVE FOOD, CLOTHING, OFFERS OF EMPLOYMENT.

THE SCHOOL BOARD REACHED OUT ABOUT EDUCATION OPPORTUNITIES IF ANY ARE GOING TO STAY IN THE AREA.

SO WE'RE KIND OF EVERYDAY LIFE NOW JOANNA.

>> THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY SOME OF THE KIDS WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE PART OF THE SCHOOLS HERE?

>> SURE.

PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE OPEN AND THEY ARE HERE LEGALLY.

THEY ARE SEEKING ASYLUM.

AND IF THEY SHOULD GET THEIR ASYLUM AND WANT TO STAY HERE THEY CAN BE EDUCATED HERE.

>> AND YOU MENTIONED YOU VISITED THE HOTEL TWICE.

CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT WHAT YOU SAW.

DID YOU GET A CHANCE TO SPEAK WITH INDIVIDUALS THERE?

>> NOT TOO MUCH I AM NOT A SPANISH SPEAKER.

I WILL TELL YOU THAT THERE WAS A GROUP OF TEENAGE BOYS OUT FRONT SUNDAY MORNING I WAS THERE, THE DAYS ARE BLENDING AT THIS POINT.

AND I COULD TELL WHAT THEY WERE TELLING ME WHAT A BEAUTIFUL PLACE THEY KEPT CLUTCHING THEIR HEARTS HOW THANKFUL THEY WERE TO BE HERE.

I'M SURE THEY'VE COME TO US HAVING TRAVELED FROM WHERE THEY DID.

AND I THINK THAT THEY PROBABLY THINK THIS IS WHAT FREEDOM IS ABOUT.

LOOK AT THIS GREAT COUNTRY.

AND I'M PROUD AS THE MAYOR OF BURR RIDGE AND I KNOW MY RESIDENTS ARE THAT THEY WILL SAY THEY STARTED IN BURR RIDGE, ILLINOIS.

>> AND WHAT WAS THAT FEELING AS YOU WERE SEEING FAMILIES SITTING OUT, WALKING WITH THEIR CHILDREN, PUSHING THEIR STROLLERS.

WHAT CAME TO MIND?

>> TWO THINGS: ONE, THEY WERE IN AN UNFORTUNATE SITUATION AND NOW THEY ARE HERE SAFE.

BUT TO YOUR POINT, THEY KNOW RIGHT AWAY IT WAS NORMAL THINGS.

MY WIFE AND I RAISED SIX KIDS.

AND YOU COULD SEE THE MOMS WITH THEIR STROLLERS AS YOU SAID.

THE TEENAGE BOYS CROWDING AROUND PUSHING EACH OTHER.

JUST WHAT WE ALL DO ALL THE TIME.

SO THE NORMALCY IS WHAT IMPRESSED ME.

>> YOU'VE EXPRESSED CONCERNS OVER LACK OF COMMUNICATION FROM GOVERNOR PRITZKER AND MAYOR LORI LIGHTFOOT HAVE YOU HEARD ANYTHING FROM EITHER OF THEM?

>> YES, I WILL TELL YOU I WAS UPSET WITH BOTH OF THEM.

AND AFTER ALL THEY PUT US IN A VERY DIFFICULT POSITION.

THEY STOOD AND HAD PRESS CONFERENCES AND THEY EXCOREIATED GOVERNOR ABBOTT AND ANYBODY ELSE WHO DID NOT GIVE THEM FAIR NOTICE.

THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT 500 PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME HERE AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, I WAS VERY UPSET THAT DID NOT AFFORD US THE SAME COURTESIES.

AND THEN FOR THE GOVERNOR IN PARTICULAR TO CALL US WHAT HE CALLED US THROUGH HIS PRESS SECRETARY AND THEN DOUBLED DOWN YESTERDAY SAYING WE WERE GRUMBLING.

AND YET HE TURNS AROUND AND DECLARES AN EMERGENCY AND CALLS OUT THE NATIONAL PHENOMENA GUARD FOR 500 PEOPLE.

>> HAVE YOU HEARD FROM THE GOVERNOR?

>> I HAVE NOT.

I SENT HIM A STRONG LETTER TODAY ABOUT ALL THAT.

I HEARD FROM LORI LIGHTFOOT DURING THE BEARS GAME ON SUNDAY AND SHE CALLED ME AND APOLOGIZED.

SHE IS FEISTY AND SHE GOT FEISTY ON THE PHONE WITH US.

BUT IT TURNED OUT TO BE A PROFESSIONAL CONVERSATION AFTER THAT SHE ADMITTED I HAD EVERY RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON.

AHEAD OF TIME SO WE COULD PREPARE FOR THE NORMAL QUESTIONS TO BE ANSWERED.

SHE THEN CALLED ME ON TUESDAY, AND FOLLOWED UP AND WANTED TO KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING MORE SHE CAN DO.

I GIVE HER A LITTLE CREDIT NOT SO MUCH THE GOVERNOR.

>> AND IT WAS NOT ABOUT THESE INDIVIDUALS BEING HERE?

>> NO.

IT'S ABSOLUTELY NOT ABOUT THAT.

IT'S THE WAY THINGS ARE HANDLED.

THE SAME THING THAT THEY WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT WAS ABBOTT WHEN IT SUITED THEIR PRESS CONFERENCES TO MAKE A STRONG POINT TO SHOW HOW OPEN THEY WERE, WHICH IS FINE, THEN BE PREPARED.

WHY AREN'T YOU PREPARED AND WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL IN THE LONG-RUN, THESE ARE GREAT PEOPLE, WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL WITH 500 PEOPLE?

NEW YORK'S GOT 10,000, 11,000?

>> AND MAYOR, I WANT TO ASK YOU A QUESTION.

WHAT MESSAGE DO YOU WANT TO GIVE THE COMMUNITY WHO IS CONCERNED ABOUT MIGRANTS BEING HERE IN THE COMMUNITY?

>> DON'T BE CONCERNED.

DON'T BE CONCERNED AT ALL.

THINGS ARE FINE.

THEY ARE SEARCHING FOR FREEDOM.

THEY WANT A BETTER LIFE.

ALL OF US ARE PRODUCTS OF IMMIGRANTS AND HERE IN BURR RIDGE WE CALL IT A SPECIAL PLACE BECAUSE WE ARE VERY DIVERSE COMMUNITY.

>> THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TONIGHT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> AND COMING UP WE'LL SPEAK WITH THE LOCAL FOUNDATION AND LEARN MORE ABOUT THE PARK WE'RE STANDING IN HARVESTER PARK.

FIRST, BACK TO YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

SEE YOU IN A BIT.

AND NOW TO PARIS FOR A LOOK AT WHAT CHICAGO'S CITY COUNCIL COULD BE LIKE WITH FEWER SEATS AT THE TABLE.

>> THAT IS RIGHT.

MORE THAN A DOZEN ALDERPEOPLE ARE NOT SEEKING REELECTION TO CITY COUNCIL AND THE SUDDEN EXODUS IS RENEWING CALLS TO DOWNSIZE THE NUMBER OF SEATS.

THERE ARE 51 COUNCILMEMBERS IN NEW YORK CITY REPRESENTING 173,000 PEOPLE EACH.

LOS ANGELES HAS 15 COUNCILMEMBERS REPRESENTING 257,000 PEOPLE EACH AND THAT IS COMPARED TO CHICAGO'S CITY HALL WHICH HAS 50 ALDERPEOPLE REPRESENTING 54,000 PEOPLE EACH.

AND JOINING US NOW WITH MORE ON WHAT CUTTING THE SIZE OF CHICAGO'S CITY COUNCIL COULD MEAN ARE WILLIAM HOWELL DIRECTOR OF THE CENTER FOR EFFECTIVE GOVERNMENT AT THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO.

AND BRYAN ZAROU DIRECTOR OF POLICY AT THE BETTER GOVERNMENT ASSOCIATION.

WELCOME TO "CHICAGO TONIGHT."

WILLIAM HOWELL THE ARGUMENT FOR REDUCING THE SIZE OF CITY COUNCIL AND CUTTING IT IN HALF TO 25 MEMBERS?

>> IT IS A POWERFUL ARGUMENT.

LOOK WE ARE A HUGE OUTLIER HERE IN CHICAGO IN TERMS OF THE SIZES OF OUR CITY COUNCIL.

RELATIVE TO THE POPULATION THAT WE HOLD.

WHAT WE'VE DONE AS A CITY IS WE'VE CHOPPED UP OUR CITY INTO 50 SEPARATE WARDS AND PUT IN A CITY COUNCIL WITH 50 MEMBERS THAT ARE EACH OF WHOM REPRESENTS THOSE WARDS ONE AT A TIME.

WE HAVE MINNIE MAYORS IN THE CITY COUNCIL IT BECOMES INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT TO ADDRESS ISSUES ACROSS WARD BOUNDARIES.

IT IS A REASON WHY THERE IS A LOT OF IMPORTANT REASON WHY THERE IS A LOT OF GRAFT IN OUR POLITICS AND WHY CITY COUNCIL HAS A HARD TIME PUSHING BACK AGAINST THE POWERS OF THE MAYOR AND SPEAKING AS A GROUP.

WE'RE WAY OUT OF STEP.

AND SOMETHING OUGHT TO BE DONE ABOUT IT.

>> BRYAN ZAROU IS THERE A MAJOR DIFFERENCE IN PUBLIC POLICY OUTCOMES IN CHICAGO VERSUS THE PLACES WE MENTIONED NEW YORK AND LA WHERE THERE ARE FEWER REPRESENTATIVES REPRESENTING MORE PEOPLE?

>> I CAN'T SAY IF THERE'S DIFFERENT POLICY OUTCOMES.

THE BUT I DO THINK THE MAKEUP OF CITY COUNCIL IS VERY DIFFERENT.

AS A FORMER NEW YORKER, KNOWING HOW NEW YORK CITY WORKS, HERE IN CHICAGO AS LONG AS YOU ARE RELYING ON ALDERMEN TO HANDLE CONSTITUENT COMPLAINTS AND NOT WORRYING TOO MUCH ABOUT POLICY YOU CANNOT MAKE THE WARDS BIGGER.

EACH ALD MAN IS HANDLING 50,000 PEOPLE.

FROM THE BUDGET IT DOESN'T MAKE A DITCH.

BUT IF -- DIFFERENCE.

IF THE JOBS OF THE ALD METROPOLITAN CHANGE FROM ADMINISTRATORS TO POLICYMAKERS THERE COULD BE A BIG ARGUMENT FOR IT.

>> WILLIAM HOWELL, THE SYSTEM WE HAVE HERE EACH PERSON REPRESENTING 50 PLUS THOUSAND PEOPLE TENDING TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES, IT'S BETTER BECAUSE THEY GET MORE ATTENTION AND MORE PEOPLE KNOW WHO THEIR ALDERPERSON IS.

WHAT ABOUT THAT?

>> I THINK THAT IS THE TRADE OFF.

THE TRADE OFF IS WHEN YOU HAVE GREATER NUMBERS OF PEOPLE YOU HAVE GREATER EXPRESSION OF LOCAL PREFERENCES AND GOOD FLOWS FROM THAT.

IT IS A MATTER OF BALANCE.

WE AS A CITY STRUGGLE MIGHTILY TO COME TOGETHER AS A CITY AND THE CITY COUNCIL TO RECOGNIZE THE ENTIRETY OF THE CITY.

AND AGAIN IT'S NOT JUST THE NUMBER OF SEATS THAT WE HAVE.

IT'S THE FACT THAT EACH MEMBER IS INDEPENDENTLY ELECTED AT LOCAL FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL WARD.

YOU CAN IMAGINE HAVING NOT JUST FEWER NUMBERS OF SEATS BUT ALSO SOME SUBSET OF PEOPLE THAT REPRESENT THE CITY AS A WHOLE.

SOMEHOW WE NEED TO DISRUPT THE SITUATION WHICH WHAT WE SEE ARE NOTHING BUT LOCAL CONSTITUENCY SERVICES COUPLED WITH SYMBOLIC GESTURES TOWARDS BROAD INTERNATIONAL ISSUES WHICH THE CITY COUNCIL SEES FIT TO ADDRESS.

BUT WE STRUGGLE AGAIN TO COME TOGETHER AS A CITY.

THE PROBLEMS INVOLVING CRIME AND SEGREGATION, AND INADEQUATE SERVICES AND CONNECTIONS ACROSS NEIGHBORHOODS IS NO SMALL PART OF THE FUNCTION OF THE DESIGN OF OUR CITY GOVERNMENT AND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO SERVE IN THE CITY COUNCIL IS IMPORTANT PART OF THAT.

>> IT'S BEEN A STRONG MAYOR, WEAK COUNCIL SYSTEM THE POLICY EMANATED FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE HAS BEEN A RUBBER STAMP.

THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS I'VE SEEN MORE LEGISLATING DONE AT THE CITY COUNCIL LEVEL OR AN ORDINANCE MIGHT COME FROM THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL DEBATES IT AND TEAKS IT.

BUT BRYAN ZAROU, DOES IT MEAN THAT THE CITY SHOULD TAKE A BROADER LOOK AT ITS STRUCTURE OF GOVERNMENT AND NOT JUST LOOK AT DOWNSIZING CITY COUNCIL, BUT MAKING BIG CHANGES AS A WHOLE SYSTEM?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

I THINK SINCE 2019 WE'VE SEEN MORE ALDERPERSON'S TRYING TO TAKE AN ACTIVE LEGISLATIVE ROLE.

THE OLD SCHOOL POLITICS OF RUBBER STAMPING THINGS IS NOT HOW IT WORKS LATELY.

YOU LOOK AT ALDERMAN TRYING TO PUSH FOR AN INDEPENDENT CITY PROPOSAL.

THE MORE PROGRESSIVE YOUNGER MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL WHO ARE COMING IN WANT TO BE LEGISLATORS AND NOT ADMINISTRATORS.

AND I THINK WITH THIS MASS EXODUS WE HAVE OF 15 PEOPLE I THINK WE WILL SEE A BIG CHANGE.

>> MIGHT BE A GOOD TIME TO LOOK AT THAT.

WILLIAM HOWELL EVERY TIME WE TALK ABOUT DOWNSIZING CITY COUNCIL, FORMER GOVERNOR PAT QUINN PASSED A REFERENDUM TO REDUCE THE SIZE OF THE ILLINOIS GENERAL ASSEMBLY.

THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE OF THAT WAS THAT FEWER MEMBERS MEANT POWER WAS CONSOLIDATED UNDER MIKE MADIGAN A LOT EASIER.

IS THAT AN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE, FEWER MEMBERS AND MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR POWER TO BE CONSOLIDATED.

>> LOOK THERE ARE TRADE-OFFS ALL THE WAY THROUGH.

WHAT REFORMS YOU MAKE IN ONE PLACE THEY WILL HAVE CONSEQUENCES THAT EMANATE THROUGH THE SYSTEM.

A REASON WHY THE CITY COUNCIL HISTORICALLY HAS STRUGGLED TO PUSHBACK AGAINST THE POWERS OF THE MAYOR IT'S DIFFICULT TO GOVERN WITH 50 MEMBERS ALL OF THEM REPRESENTING INDIVIDUAL WARDS.

SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE CONSOLIDATION OF POWER THAT WE HAVE AT THE CITY LEVEL IS THAT THE MAYORAL OFFICE.

SO DECREASING THE SIZE OF THE CITY COUNCIL IS NOT TO DECREASE THE IMPORTANCE OR THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE CITY COUNCIL IT'S IN THE SERVICE OF STRENGTHENING THE VOICES.

YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT THE TRADE-OFFS BETWEEN ATTENTION TO THE INTEREST OF THE CITY AS A WHOLE OR LARGER DISTRICTS AND WARDS, AS OPPOSED TO LOCAL CONSIDERATIONS AND POPULATIONS THAT IF ALL WE HAD WERE, SAY, AT LARGE ELECTIONS THEY ARE GOING TO BE SOME POPULATIONS THAT HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME GETTING THEIR VOICES HEARD.

>> FORMER INSPECTOR GENERAL JOE FERGUSON IS STARTING A GROUP LOOKING AT WAYS TO MAKE BIG CHANGE TO THE CITY.

BRYAN ZAROU IF THIS IS THE TIME TO DO IT GIVEN THE EXODUS, WHAT ARE THE WAYS TO DO THAT?

WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS?

AND IS ANYONE IN POWER TALKING ABOUT THIS?

>> IN POWER, NO.

I DON'T'S THINK ANYONE IS POWER IS TALKING ABOUT THIS.

BUT I THINK THERE IS A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER SEEN 15 AND MAYBE MORE THAT ARE NOT COMING BACK.

I THINK IT PROVIDES A PHENOMENAL OPPORTUNITY FOR A GRASSROOT MOVEMENT IN COME IN AND TRY TO MANEUVER THE YOUNGER PROGRESSIVES COMING IN TO CHANGE THE SYSTEM.

>> AND WE ALSO SHOULD MENTION THERE ARE MUNICIPAL ELECTIONS IN FEBRUARY.

WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY INCUMBENTS MIGHT LOSE THEIR SEATS.

BUT IT IS SIGNIFICANT TURNOVER AT THIS POINT.

OUR THANKS TO PROFESSOR WILLIAM HOWELL AND BRYAN ZAROU THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> YOU BET.

>> THANK YOU.

>> UP NEXT WE CHECK BACK IN WITH JOANNA HERNANDEZ WHO IS REPORTING LIVE FROM SUBURBAN BURR RIDGE.

BUT FIRST WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE WEATHER... [♪♪♪] >> AND NOW WE CHECK BACK IN WITH JOANNA HERNANDEZ WHO SPENT THE DAY IN BURR RIDGE AS PART OF OUR "IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD SERIES".

>> THANKS.

WE'RE NOW HERE WITH BARBARA DOHRMAN, PRESIDENT OF THE BURR RIDGE COMMUNITY PARK FOUNDATION.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TONIGHT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I WANT TO START OFF, TELL US ABOUT YOUR ORGANIZATION AND WHY WAS IT IMPORTANT TO CREATE A PARK FOUNDATION HERE IN BURR RIDGE?

>> WE FORMED THE ACTUAL PARK DISTRICT IN THE 70s WHEN THE VILLAGE WAS DEVELOPING VERY RAPIDLY.

BECAUSE WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WERE PARKS AND OPEN SPACES.

AND THEN ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO, IN ORDER TO SUPPORT THE PARK DISTRICT, WE FORMED THE FOUNDATION.

AND THE GOAL WAS TO HELP US KEEP OUR REALLY LOW TAX RATE AND DO WHATEVER WE COULD TO SUPPORT THE EXISTING PARK DISTRICT THAT DOES A LOT OF PROGRAMS.

>> YOU KNOW YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT THE PARK IS KIND OF LIKE THE DOWNTOWN OF BURR RIDGE.

HOW SO?

>> WELL, A LOT OF PEOPLE EVERYBODY COMES HERE.

AND THE PARK AND ITS FACILITIES ARE OPEN NOT ONLY TO THE RESIDENTS BUT TO EVERYBODY IN THE AREA.

AND OUR PARK DISTRICT IS ACTUALLY BIGGER THAN THE VILLAGE OF BURR RIDGE.

SO WE HAVE A THE OF PEOPLE ALL THE TIME.

YOU CAN PROBABLY HEAR SOME OF THEM IN THE BACKGROUND THEY ARE STILL PLAYING.

>> TELL ME ABOUT THIS AMAZING PLAYGROUND THAT IS RIGHT BEHIND US.

I MEAN IT IS A TRIBUTE IT LOOKS LIKE A ROUTE 66 IS THAT CORRECT?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

IT IS THAT IS OUR NEWEST ONE.

WE ARE SO DELATED WITH JIM, THE PARK DISTRICT'S DIRECTOR.

WHO CREATES THESE WONDERFUL, VERY EXCITING AND UNIQUE FACILITIES THAT ARE PLAY FACILITIES BUT THEY REALLY HAVE A WONDERFUL THEME.

AND HE HAS TRIED ALL ALONG TO DEPICT IN THE PLAY AREAS THE HISTORY OF BURR RIDGE AND THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.

AND SINCE BURR RIDGE IS ON ROUTE 66, HENCE THE WHOLE PLAY AREA FOCUSES ON ROUTE 66.

>> VERY COOL.

>> IT'S WONDERFUL.

CAN THEY SEE THE TOWER FROM HERE?

PROBABLY NOT.

BUT IT IS A GIANT CLIMBING TOWER IN THE FORM OF WILLIS TOWER AND THEN THERE ARE PLAY AREAS DEVELOPED FROM A ROADSIDE ATTRACTIONS FROM OTHER PARTS IN THE STATES ALL THE WAY TO CALIFORNIA.

>> I WANT TO ASK YOU, WHAT MAKES THIS PARK SO UNIQUE?

>> WELL, FOR ONE THING, WE WELCOME EVERYBODY.

EVERYBODY COMES.

ANOTHER THING IS THESE PLAY AREAS THAT JIM HAS DEVELOPED ARE ABSOLUTELY UNIQUE.

THERE'S NOTHING LIKE THEM ANYWHERE AND HE KEEPS DOING IT ONE AFTER THE OTHER.

THERE ARE THREE OR FOUR DEPICTINGS THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE AREA AND WE THINK THAT MAKES IT SPECIAL.

>> CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT EVENTS COMING UP ONE IS CALLED THE TASTE OF BURR RIDGE.

>> THIS IS A VILLAGE EVENT THIS YEAR.

THEY DID ONE LAST YEAR IT WAS A LOT OF FUN.

THE PARK DISTRICT FOUNDATION COOPERATED AND WE'LL DO IT AGAIN THIS YEAR.

AND PEOPLE CAME OUT AND HAD A GOOD TIME AND WE'LL DO IT AGAIN.

>> YOU HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT HERE FOR 50 YEARS.

>> YES, I HAVE.

>> WHAT DO YOU LOVE ABOUT BURR RIDGE?

>> I LOVE BEING HERE, I LOVE THE OPEN SPACE AND I LOVE THE PEOPLE.

IT'S BEEN A WONDERFUL PLACE TO HAVE YOUR FAMILY AND RAISE YOUR KIDS AND I WILL STAY HERE AS LONG AS I AM ALIVE.

>> THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> AGAIN THAT WAS BARBARA DOHRMAN.

BRANDIS, I SENT IT BACK TO YOU.

>> BARBARA DOHRMAN PRESIDENT OF THE COMMUNITY PARK FOUNDATION AND A BURR RIDGE AMBASSADOR.

BEFORE WE LET YOU GO YOU SPENT A GOOD PART OF THE DAY REPORTING ON THE MIGRANTS HOUSED IN BURR RIDGE.

ANY WORD IF MORE MIGRANT FAMILIES ARE COMING TO BURR RIDGE?

>> YOU KNOW, WHEN WE SPOKE TO THE MAYOR HE SAID HE HAS NOT HEARD OF ANYMORE FAMILIES COMING DOWN HERE.

BUT AGAIN THAT COULD CHANGE.

WE COULD SEE THAT CHANGING DEPENDING WHAT HAPPENS IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS AND MONTHS.

AND THAT IS ALL WE HAVE HERE FROM BURR RIDGE.

>> THANKS.

AND OF COURSE THERE COULD BE WORD THAT OTHERS ARE BEING SENT TO OTHER COMMUNITIES IN THE AREA.

A STORY WE'LL KEEP WATCHING.

>> THE SERIES OF ONE MAN'S SELF PORTRAITS SPANNING 75 YEARS.

STAY WITH US.

>> SELF EXPLORATION THROUGH SELF PORTRAITS THAT HAS BEEN THE GOAL OF LEO SEGEDIN SINCE HE STARTED THE CRAFT MORE THAN 70 YEARS AGO.

JAY SHEFSKY FIRST INTRODUCED US TO THE ARTIST TEN YEARS AGO.

AND RECENTLY ARTS CORRESPONDENT, ANGEL IDOWU TOOK US TO THE DES PLAINES EXHIBIT SHOWCASING THE SERIES OF SELF PORTRAITS SPANNING 75 YEARS.

HERE IS ANOTHER LOOK.

>> THIS IS LEO SEGEDIN.

THIS IS ALSO LEO SEGEDIN.

AND AND THIS IS HIM HERE, TOO.

AND IN FACT, THEY ARE ALL LEO SEGEDIN ALL PAINTED BY THE ARTIST OVER THE COURSE OF 75 YEARS.

>> BUT THE PAST IS MY PRESENT AND MY PAINTING ANYWAY.

>> JAY SHEFSKY FIRST INTRODUCED US TO THE ARTIST IN 2013.

WHILE A LOT HAS CHANGED SINCE THEN, SOME THINGS REMAINED THE SAME.

>> I GREW UP ON THE WEST SIDE OF CHICAGO, OK.

ANYTIME I PAINT THE CITY NOW IT'S THE WEST SIDE OF CHICAGO FROM 1940s.

>> DESPITE RAISING HIS FAMILY IN EVANSTON FOR THE LAST 50 YEARS, LEO SEGEDIN'S WORK HAS BEEN ROOTED IN THIS CHILDHOOD MEMORIES.

AND WHILE AGE FORCED HIM TO RELOCATE THE STUDIO SPACE AT HOME FROM THE TOP FLOOR TO THE LIVING ROOM ON THE FIRST FLOOR.

>> NOW I'M DOWN HERE MY STUDIO.

THAT IS A STUDIO?

>> HIS DRIVE REMAINS THE SAME.

>> WITH MOST ARTISTS DO IS BULL...

PARDON THE EXPRESSION.

I THINK SINCE THE BEGINNING THAT MY PAINTING IS GO TO BE ABOUT SOMETHING THEY HAVE TO HAVE A SUBJECT AND BE AN IMPORTANT SUBJECT.

>> THOSE SUBJECTS ARE ON DISPLAY IN AN EXHIBIT AT THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE.

>> WHAT ARE YOUR FAVORITE SELF PORTRAITS YOU SEE IN THE EXHIBIT?

>> THERE IS ONE THAT USED TO HANG HERE IN WHICH I AM THREE TIMES.

AND I'VE SEEN IT HERE EVERYDAY BUT WHEN I SAW IT IN THE MUSEUM, I SAID WOW, DID I DO THAT?

>> ONE OF THE PAINTINGS IN THE SHOW ACTUALLY IT SHOWS A KID WITH A HELMET AND THEN AN OLD MAN WITH A BEARD AND THAT IS ME WHEN I WAS NINE YEARS OLD AND I WANTED TO BE A PILOT.

WHAT WOULD I THINK WHEN I WAS 95 YEARS OLD?

AND NOW THAT I'M 95 YEARS OLD, WHAT DID I THINK I WAS WHEN I WAS A KID?

AND I'M CONFRONTATION THAT IS WHAT THE PAINTING WAS ABOUT.

>> WITH NO HELP FROM A MIRROR HE PAINTS HOW HE HAS KNOWN HIMSELF TO BE NOT NECESSARILY WHO HE SEES.

>> I ACTUALLY HAVE ALMOST NO MEMORY OF WHAT I WAS THINKING WHEN I DID THEM.

I LOOK AT THEM.

AND I ALMOST PROJECT THE PAST INTO THEM.

>> LEO SEGEDIN SAYS HE DOESN'T PAINT TO PLEASE PEOPLE BUT HOPES HIS WORK DOES.

IT'S FOR THAT REASON LEO SEGEDIN SAYS HE DOESN'T BELIEVE HIS STYLE IS DESCRIBABLE.

>> I DON'T THINK I CAN EXPLAIN IT IN BOARDS.

I DON'T THINK THE VISUAL IMAGE IS TRANSLATABLE.

>> WHAT IS IT THAT YOU WANT VIEWERS TO TAKE AWAY FROM YOU AND YOUR WORK AND WHAT THEY INTERPRET?

>> BE AWARE OF ME AS A PERSON AND LIVED FOR A LONGTIME AND PRODUCED AND AS LONG AS I CAN I WILL.

SO I MAY GO BACK TO MORE SPONTANEOUS STUFF AND PULL IT OUT AND NO EDGES AND ALL THAT.

I WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

IS THAT INTIMIDATING?

>> YES.

YES, IT IS THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION.

I'M SCARED.

THE ADVICE TO JUDGE PEOPLE IS DO IT WHILE YOU CAN.

THERE'S ONLY ONE MATERIAL THAT IS IRREPLACEABLE AND THAT IS TIME.

>> FOR "CHICAGO TONIGHT" I'M ANGEL IDOWU.

>> AND THAT EXHIBIT HAS CLOSED BUT YOU CAN STILL SEE THE SERIES IN OUR NEW EXHIBITED AT THE RARE NEST GALLERY IN AVONDALE.

AND WE'RE BACK TO WRAP THINGS UP RIGHT AFTER THIS.

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