- Hello.

- Hi.

- Hey, honey.

- Oh, [indiscernible].

- You brought food.

- I brought food.

- Good.

Avocados and bananas.

- But I'm home and I'm eating by myself and the house is quiet.

I'm sad that I'm not with my wife and it's okay to feel sad.

It's natural.

It's nice to see your face.

- I know.

- Instead of hearing you on the phone.

- I know.

- So all I do is I work.

I'm not hanging out with the guys, I'm not doing stuff.

- But you are watching football again.

- Not anymore.

[laughs] It's over.

Yes, I was enjoying that immensely and- - Well, haven't wanted to TV in the house for eight years, so- - You know, you try and keep a stiff upper lip, but it's not always easy.

And I think about what she's doing and when I call here, if she doesn't answer, I'm kind of glad because that means she's probably out doing something and I'd rather her out being social doing something than sitting home.

So Carmen, you here for the weekend?

- Yes, yes, until tomorrow.

I have to- - When'd you get here?

- I got here on Tuesday.

- Oh, okay.

- So I have to go back to the kids and the husband and- Yes, it's very nice to be able to just hang out with people that are electrosensitive that don't come to their house with a cell phone.

You know, I don't get to socialize at home.

- I know.

- It was good to see how it's possible.

- I know.

- It's possible to have a little house with healthy and it's possible, it can be done.

- [Participant] The youngest is how old?

- [Carmen] 14.

Mm-hm.

But as a mother of course, I always feel so guilty.

- I know.

- I want to know everything.

I cannot go to when they get awards at school, I cannot- I just, you know, but it's okay, I'm okay.

I don't cry with them.

Only when I get emotional when I talk about it.

- [Participant] Yeah, we know what it's like.

- We know exactly.

I missed my daughter's graduation.

- [Paul Marganian] From college.

- College graduation.

That was heartbreaking.

- [Carmen] I know.

- When I went to the graduation and when we went to dinner, I put up my cell phone in the middle of the table on speaker so she could make a toast to everyone there.

- I was home.

- She was home.

- I was home and and when they were ordering and I'd say, oh, what's on the menu?

I want chicken.

I want, you know- Yeah, that's a good idea.

- [Husband] It's better than nothing.

- So the very technology that harmed me actually helped me connect- - Sort of like internet.

Without internet we couldn't all connect.

- Yeah.

- So to help each other from being tortured by the internet.

[all chuckle] It's an irony.

- Yeah.

- I apologize for being late.

- [Participant] You're very late.

[ladies laugh] - My call ran an hour late.

There is no work opportunity in Green Bank unless you work for the observatory.

You might work for the Dollar Store.

I'm used to a much higher pay grade.

- But what are alternatives for people who say that they are planning to come to move here to Green Bank?

- Yes.

- It's hard to find a place to rent.

- This place is going to- A lot more people are gonna be coming once global wifi goes out.

- It's gonna take a world catastrophe.

And whether you think it's sadly or or fortunately, lots of catastrophes are in the future of the world.

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